Yonkers Raceway Race 6

Race 6

Stake: $34,078

CHULO (1) won at this track two runs ago but couldn't repeat the dose at his latest appearance over 1609m at this track, beaten 6 metres. Has the benefit of a good draw. Tackles a similar assignment and he can give this a real shake. WARRAWEE WHISPER (3) has put together a fine sequence of results and kept it up last time out with a strong win at this track over 1609m. Has the benefit of a good draw. Meets a similar line up so he can certainly make his presence felt. STACKING GREEN (2) comes right into contention after scoring last start by 2.25 metres at this track over 1609m. WILLY WALTON (5) is a chance after finishing in the money for the second time in a row last start, beaten 21 metres into third at this track.

Distance: 1609m
Track: Good
Weather: -
Surface: All Weather
Class: 40000CLM

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Chulo (Fr1) x621175212
Trainer: Per Engblom ()
Driver: Jason Bartlett
Prize Money: $485,227
Win / Place: 19% / 38%

7 yo Bay Horse

Sire: WHAT THE HILL (USA)

Dam: CHULA

Rating

Stats

Career

91: 18-14-3

Distance

91: 18-14-3

Trk/Dst

22: 7-6-1

Track

22: 7-6-1

Season

9: 3-3-0

1st Up

3: 0-0-1

2nd Up

3: 0-2-0

3rd Up

3: 1-0-0

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

91: 18-14-3

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:52.30

Driver Stats

Comments

Last start game effort when 2nd (Fr2) over 1609m at this track, beaten 6 m by Warrawee Whisper (1:55.00) in 40000CLM on May 7 at $1.64. Two runs back won by 9 m as favourite (Fr3) at this track (1:55.20) beating Sky Box in 40000CLM on April 30 at $1.43. Hard to fault on current form.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
2nd of 6	7/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	Jason Bartlett	1:55.00	1:55.00	2.53L	$1.64f	7	40000CLM	$34,078	$8,519	1. Warrawee Whisper 2. Chulo 3. Jas Bluestone
1st of 8	30/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Jason Bartlett	1:55.20	1:55.20	3.35L	$1.43f	7	40000CLM	$34,078	$17,039	1. Chulo 2. Sky Box 3. Hat Trick Marleau
2nd of 8	23/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Colin Kelly	1:56.20	1:56.20	0.33L	$1.84f	7	40000CLM	$35,517	$8,879	1. Mon Amour 2. Chulo 3. Sky Box
5th of 8	16/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Jason Bartlett	1:55.40	1:55.40	4.20L	$2.12f	12	40000CLM	$35,517	$1,776	1. Jas Bluestone 2. Eyes Of Justice 3. For A Dreamer
7th of 8	4/4/26	Pocono Downs	1609m		All Weather	Fr8	Colin Kelly	1:52.20	1:52.20	6.99L	$17	16	NW12500L5	$26,637	-	1. Sapphirerainstar 2. Winnpanzee 3. Super Duper Cooper
1st of 7	19/3/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Jason Bartlett	1:56.40	1:56.40	0.33L	$1.51f	7	40000CLM	$30,843	$15,421	1. Chulo 2. P L Oscar 3. Bay Breeze Hanover

Stacking Green (Fr2) 5431362241
Trainer: Scott Di Domenico ()
Driver: George Brennan
Prize Money: $252,490
Win / Place: 25% / 62%

4 yo Bay Filly

Sire: GREENSHOE (USA)

Dam: MAJESTIC LEXI

100

Rating

Stats

Career

40: 10-7-8

Distance

40: 10-7-8

Trk/Dst

2: 1-0-0

Track

2: 1-0-0

Season

14: 3-3-3

1st Up

2: 1-0-1

2nd Up

2: 0-1-0

3rd Up

2: 0-0-1

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

40: 10-7-8

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:55.00

Driver Stats

Comments

Recent efforts have been impressive. Last start won by 2.25 m (Fr2) at this track (1:57.10) beating Jas Bluestone in 40000CLM on May 14 at $4.79. Huge chance with the aid of a very nice draw.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
1st of 6	14/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	George Brennan	1:57.10	1:57.10	0.86L	$4.79	7	40000CLM	$34,078	$17,039	1. Stacking Green 2. Jas Bluestone 3. Bontoni Degato
4th of 6	7/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr1	George Brennan	1:55.00	1:55.00	4.46L	$9.00	20	40000CLM	$34,078	$2,727	1. Warrawee Whisper 2. Chulo 3. Jas Bluestone
2nd of 7	17/4/26	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Justin Walters	1:56.00	1:56.00	0.22L	$3.40	8	NW8400L4	$18,646	$4,662	1. Greentea 2. Stacking Green 3. You Found Out
2nd of 9	9/4/26	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Justin Walters	1:54.30	1:54.30	0.56L	$7.50	6	NW5500L4	$15,627	$3,906	1. You Found Out 2. Stacking Green 3. Looks Like Moni
6th of 8	3/4/26	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	Justin Walters	1:53.00	1:53.00	6.99L	$38	8	NW8000L4	$18,646	-	1. Big Boy Ernest 2. Smoking Jet 3. Stay Close
3rd of 8	26/3/26	The Meadows	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	Justin Walters	1:54.40	1:54.40	1.12L	$35	20	NW8200L4	$15,421	$1,851	1. Flightline 2. Espresso 3. Stacking Green

Warrawee Whisper (Fr3) 3343771611
Trainer: Andrew Adamczyk ()
Driver: Joe Bongiorno
Prize Money: $477,591
Win / Place: 20% / 51%

Dominant Win Last Start

Going for the Hat-Trick

8 yo Bay Gelding

Sire: TRIXTON (FR)

Dam: KAROON

100

Rating

Stats

Career

105: 21-15-18

Distance

103: 20-15-17

Trk/Dst

28: 7-3-7

Track

29: 7-3-8

Season

15: 6-2-3

1st Up

3: 2-0-0

2nd Up

3: 0-2-0

3rd Up

3: 0-1-0

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

105: 21-15-18

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:52.20

Driver Stats

Comments

Eight-year-old gelding is racing in fine form. Won his last two outings at this track both over 1609m. Last start won by 21 m as favourite (Fr3) at this track (1:55.20) beating Sky Box in 40000CLM on May 14 at $1.31. Hard to fault on recent form.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
1st of 7	14/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Joe Bongiorno	1:55.20	1:55.20	7.81L	$1.31f	7	40000CLM	$34,078	$17,039	1. Warrawee Whisper 2. Sky Box 3. Willy Walton
1st of 6	7/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Joe Bongiorno	1:55.00	1:55.00	2.53L	$5.76	7	40000CLM	$34,078	$17,039	1. Warrawee Whisper 2. Chulo 3. Jas Bluestone
6th of 7	30/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	Joe Bongiorno	1:55.30	1:55.30	8.92L	$19	7	40000CLM	$34,078	-	1. Quality Kid 2. Jas Bluestone 3. For A Dreamer
1st of 8	23/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr8	Joe Bongiorno	1:56.30	1:56.30	0.22L	$22	7	40000CLM	$35,517	$17,758	1. Warrawee Whisper 2. Jas Bluestone 3. Quality Kid
7th of 8	16/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr7	Jordan Stratton	1:55.40	1:55.40	5.32L	$50	7	40000CLM	$35,517	-	1. Jas Bluestone 2. Eyes Of Justice 3. For A Dreamer
7th of 8	9/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr7	Jordan Stratton	1:56.00	1:56.00	12.01L	$47	14	40000CLM	$35,517	-	1. Full Of Muscles 2. Wheelzablazin 3. Eyes Of Justice

Cactustotheclouds (Fr4) 4447p75313
Trainer: Chris Height ()
Driver: Matt Kakaley
Prize Money: $379,303
Win / Place: 11% / 52%

6 yo Bay Gelding

Sire: ALARM DETECTOR

Dam: KEEP THE SPIRIT

Rating

Stats

Career

85: 10-17-18

Distance

84: 10-17-17

Trk/Dst

36: 4-5-7

Track

37: 4-5-8

Season

12: 1-1-3

1st Up

3: 0-0-0

2nd Up

3: 0-1-0

3rd Up

3: 0-1-1

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

85: 10-17-18

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:54.00

Driver Stats

Comments

Last start good run when 3rd (Fr5) over 1609m at this track beaten 6 m by Bronzer (1:55.20) in NW8501L5 on May 8 at $21.59. Two runs back won by 3 m (Fr4) at this track (1:57.00) beating Manforce in NW5000L5 on May 1 at $3.34. Racing very well. Strong claims.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
3rd of 8	8/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Matt Kakaley	1:55.20	1:55.20	2.53L	$22	7	NW8501L5	$28,966	$3,476	1. Bronzer 2. Highlandstarburst 3. Cactustotheclouds
1st of 6	1/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Matt Kakaley	1:57.00	1:57.00	1.12L	$3.34	7	NW5000L5	$25,559	$12,780	1. Cactustotheclouds 2. Manforce 3. Robertson De
3rd of 8	24/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Matt Kakaley	1:56.40	1:56.40	1.67L	$11	7	NW5000L5	$26,637	$3,196	1. Escaper 2. The Hazelton 3. Cactustotheclouds
5th of 8	17/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr8	Andrew McCarthy	1:56.40	1:56.40	4.46L	$33	21	NW5861L5	$26,637	$1,332	1. Radio Lab 2. Hat Trick Marleau 3. No Drama Please
3rd of 4	11/4/26	Meadowlands	1609m			-	Andrew McCarthy	1:53.40	1:53.40	12.27L	$0.00	-	Trial	$0	-	1. Lexus Kody 2. Chapercraz 3. Cactustotheclouds
7th of 10	27/3/26	Meadowlands	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Vincent Ginsburg	1:53.00	1:53.00	12.27L	$23	36	NW5000L5CD	$18,646	-	1. Green Pastures 2. Mr Contestant 3. Novel
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Willy Walton (Fr5) 6445674723
Trainer: Michael Seddon ()
Driver: Tyler Buter
Prize Money: $822,807
Win / Place: 19% / 46%

12 yo BLU/Roan Gelding

Sire: CR ROYAL FLUSH

Dam: FOX AVENUE LISA

Rating

Stats

Career

144: 28-17-22

Distance

141: 28-15-21

Trk/Dst

135: 24-14-20

Track

138: 24-16-21

Season

14: 0-2-1

1st Up

1: 1-0-0

2nd Up

1: 0-0-0

3rd Up

1: 0-1-0

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

144: 28-17-22

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:54.00

Driver Stats

Comments

Solid run when a close second behind Quality Kid at this track over 1609m in a 40000CLM on May 7 at $9.65. Then a handy effort when well beaten into third behind Warrawee Whisper at this track over 1609m in a 40000CLM on May 14 at $6.29. Definite winning chance.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
3rd of 7	14/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Tyler Buter	1:55.20	1:55.20	8.10L	$6.29	7	40000CLM	$34,078	$4,089	1. Warrawee Whisper 2. Sky Box 3. Willy Walton
2nd of 7	7/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr1	Tyler Buter	1:55.30	1:55.30	0.22L	$9.65	7	40000CLM	$34,078	$8,519	1. Quality Kid 2. Willy Walton 3. Radio Lab
7th of 8	30/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr7	Tyler Buter	1:55.20	1:55.20	6.99L	$60	7	40000CLM	$34,078	-	1. Chulo 2. Sky Box 3. Hat Trick Marleau
4th of 8	23/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	Scott Zeron	1:56.20	1:56.20	1.67L	$11	13	40000CLM	$35,517	$2,841	1. Mon Amour 2. Chulo 3. Sky Box
7th of 8	10/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr8	Scott Zeron	1:55.30	1:55.30	7.55L	$36	14	NW5261L5	$26,637	-	1. Sunday Shoes 2. Once In A Lifetime 3. Hat Trick Marleau
6th of 8	27/3/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Tyler Buter	1:57.00	1:57.00	4.20L	$18	8	NW7500L5	$26,637	-	1. Father Mike 2. Nymeria 3. Bay Breeze Hanover

Eyes Of Justice (Fr6) 3316432655
Trainer: Frank Calcagni ()
Driver: Colin Kelly
Prize Money: $244,107
Win / Place: 14% / 47%

8 yo Bay Gelding

Sire: JUSTICE HALL (USA)

Dam: NOBODY NO'S BUTME

Rating

Stats

Career

113: 16-17-21

Distance

113: 16-17-21

Trk/Dst

13: 2-1-2

Track

13: 2-1-2

Season

14: 1-1-3

1st Up

2: 0-0-0

2nd Up

2: 0-0-0

3rd Up

2: 0-2-0

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

113: 16-17-21

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:53.20

Driver Stats

Comments

Didn't do much last start, 5th (Fr4) over 1609m at this track, beaten 14 m by Warrawee Whisper (1:55.00) in 40000CLM on May 7 at $14.68. Before that 5th (Fr8) over 1609m at this track beaten 15 m by Chulo (1:55.20) in 40000CLM on April 30 at $33.85. Finds a few better. Can't recommend.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
5th of 6	7/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr4	Colin Kelly	1:55.00	1:55.00	5.32L	$15	7	40000CLM	$34,078	$1,704	1. Warrawee Whisper 2. Chulo 3. Jas Bluestone
5th of 8	30/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr8	Joe Bongiorno	1:55.20	1:55.20	5.87L	$34	7	40000CLM	$34,078	$1,704	1. Chulo 2. Sky Box 3. Hat Trick Marleau
6th of 8	23/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr7	Joe Bongiorno	1:56.20	1:56.20	2.79L	$13	7	40000CLM	$35,517	-	1. Mon Amour 2. Chulo 3. Sky Box
2nd of 8	16/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr1	Colin Kelly	1:55.40	1:55.40	0.86L	$31	7	40000CLM	$35,517	$8,879	1. Jas Bluestone 2. Eyes Of Justice 3. For A Dreamer
3rd of 8	9/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Tyler Buter	1:56.00	1:56.00	4.76L	$28	12	40000CLM	$35,517	$4,261	1. Full Of Muscles 2. Wheelzablazin 3. Eyes Of Justice
4th of 7	28/3/26	Pocono Downs	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	Tyler Buter	1:56.10	1:56.10	1.67L	$28	8	NW9500L5	$22,275	$1,782	1. Eugenio Rl 2. Oliver The Great 3. P L Quinella

Hat Trick Marleau (Fr7) 4445532364
Trainer: Cory Stratton ()
Driver: Jordan Stratton
Prize Money: $736,107
Win / Place: 10% / 43%

10 yo Bay Gelding

Sire: CRAZED (USA)

Dam: CATCH SOME ZS

Rating

Stats

Career

146: 16-25-22

Distance

143: 16-23-22

Trk/Dst

136: 16-22-21

Track

139: 16-24-21

Season

16: 0-2-3

1st Up

1: 0-0-0

2nd Up

1: 0-1-0

3rd Up

1: 1-0-0

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

146: 16-25-22

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:54.30

Driver Stats

Comments

Last start 4th (Fr5) over 1609m at this track beaten 5 m by Stacking Green (1:57.10) in 40000CLM on May 14 at $23.16. Two runs back 6th (Fr3) over 1609m at this track beaten 25 m by Quality Kid (1:55.30) in 40000CLM on May 7 at $12.41. Would be better placed in something easier.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
4th of 6	14/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr5	Jordan Stratton	1:57.10	1:57.10	1.97L	$23	7	40000CLM	$34,078	$2,727	1. Stacking Green 2. Jas Bluestone 3. Bontoni Degato
6th of 7	7/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr3	Jordan Stratton	1:55.30	1:55.30	9.78L	$12	7	40000CLM	$34,078	-	1. Quality Kid 2. Willy Walton 3. Radio Lab
3rd of 8	30/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	Jordan Stratton	1:55.20	1:55.20	4.76L	$14	13	40000CLM	$34,078	$4,089	1. Chulo 2. Sky Box 3. Hat Trick Marleau
2nd of 8	17/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr7	Jordan Stratton	1:56.40	1:56.40	1.67L	$19	7	NW5861L5	$26,637	$6,660	1. Radio Lab 2. Hat Trick Marleau 3. No Drama Please
3rd of 8	10/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr1	Jordan Stratton	1:55.30	1:55.30	3.09L	$8.80	7	NW5261L5	$26,637	$3,196	1. Sunday Shoes 2. Once In A Lifetime 3. Hat Trick Marleau
5th of 8	3/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	Jordan Stratton	1:57.20	1:57.20	4.76L	$5.82	7	NW5000L5	$26,637	$1,332	1. Ira Who 2. Memento Mori 3. No Drama Please

Big Charlie Moran (Fr8) 5308233227
Trainer: Paul Fusco ()
Driver: Austin Siegelman
Prize Money: $323,470
Win / Place: 8.92% / 34%

8 yo Bay Gelding

Sire: CANTAB HALL (USA)

Dam: SUMMERS WINDSONG

Rating

Stats

Career

157: 14-19-21

Distance

157: 14-19-21

Trk/Dst

84: 3-10-10

Track

84: 3-10-10

Season

13: 1-3-3

1st Up

1: 0-0-0

2nd Up

1: 0-0-0

3rd Up

1: 0-0-0

Mobile

0: 0-0-0

Standing

0: 0-0-0

All-Weather

157: 14-19-21

Slushy

0: 0-0-0

Grass

0: 0-0-0

Best Mile

1:54.30

Driver Stats

Comments

Last start 7th (Fr6) over 1609m at this track well beaten by Windsong Pioneer (1:59.10) in NAADA S L8 on May 7 at $10.63. Two runs back 2nd (Fr1) over 1609m at this track, beaten 2.25 m by Certify (2:01.30) in NAADA S L7 on April 30 at $3.09. Other runners are more appealing.

Last Starts days since last start

Place	Date	Track	Distance	Start	Surface	Barrier	Driver	Race Time	Mile Rate	Margin	SP	Days	Class	Prize	Prize Won	Result
7th of 7	7/5/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	John Calabrese	1:59.10	1:59.10	72.49L	$11	7	NAADA S L8	$24,537	-	1. Windsong Pioneer 2. Mamy Wata 3. Baby Tao
2nd of 8	30/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr1	John Calabrese	2:01.30	2:01.30	0.86L	$3.09	15	NAADA S L7	$24,025	$6,006	1. Certify 2. Big Charlie Moran 3. Windsong Pioneer
2nd of 7	15/4/26	Monticello Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr6	Tony Beltrami	1:59.00	1:59.00	4.46L	$3.21	6	NAADA S L5	$15,095	$3,773	1. Woodside Genius 2. Big Charlie Moran 3. Reel Em In
3rd of 8	9/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	Austin Siegelman	1:55.30	1:55.30	4.76L	$24	7	40000CLM	$35,517	$4,261	1. Busy Making Moni 2. Mon Amour 3. Big Charlie Moran
3rd of 8	2/4/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr8	John Calabrese	2:00.40	2:00.40	3.09L	$43	7	NAADA S L3	$26,816	$3,218	1. Certify 2. Windsong Pioneer 3. Big Charlie Moran
2nd of 8	26/3/26	Yonkers Raceway	1609m		All Weather	Fr2	John Calabrese	1:58.00	1:58.00	7.25L	$12	13	NAADA S L2	$22,447	$5,612	1. Shake N Bake 2. Big Charlie Moran 3. Vali Hanover

Race Review Abbreviations

Brk: Broke, Blkd: Blocked or held up, 1 x 1: One-out, one-back, Prkd: Parked, 3bk otr: 3 back on the outer, 3bk inr: 3 back on the inside, two horses behind the leader, trld: Trailed, Gt spd: Showed gate speed, 3wd: 3-wide postd: Caught wide without cover, Held up: Held up, no gaps or few gaps: If they don't see any clear air in the straight, Inr-mid-wd -position: On the inside, mid = 1-off, wd = 3-wide or wider, flew hm wd: Flew home wide, dashd inr: Sprinted well on the inside, Chkd: Checked, Slow: Slow away at the start, Wltd: Wilted or got tired, Fdd: Faded late, Urgd: driver asking horse for extra effort

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